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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
2.5/5 比较喜欢前半Carnival的部分 虽然拖拉了 但至少发挥了陀螺的风格 后半部分叙事乏味 演员之间又毫无火花😪
节奏不当，故事乏味，立意无趣。陀螺痴迷于一些个人钟爱的元素无法自拔，对影片的深入挖掘倒是晾在一边。冗长的两个半小时，票房口碑双扑街简直理所当然。春节双片都如此乏味无聊我是没想到，之前很多博主扬言在家看古驰+玉面过年，吊打看院线片。现在看来倒是未必了。
作为故事铺垫的第一幕马戏团部分有点太长（估计是因为托罗权力过大），大魔王和小白兔都很迷人，可惜角色并没有被剧本深挖，等找原版来对比一下。
结局真是讽刺啊。。兜兜转转回到原点了
是被创伤和欲念引入深渊的个体悲剧，也是被空洞和虚妄拽向阴谋的世事轮回，夜车和暗巷的旅程中，所有梦幻终变泡影，所有失落终成麻醉。德托罗把诡谲的个人趣味和老式的黑色风格进行嫁接，时长上得到强化的前半段马戏团段落，无论是氛围营造还是内容构建，都能看出陀螺在这部分是特别用心用力的，但是故事到了城市，黑色电影主线正式启动后，前段酝酿起的期待逐渐失落在并无新意的情节推进以及看似迷离实则凝滞的视听表达中，而且演员与角色之间、角色与角色之间联结度和张力的缺失，更使得高潮部分的动力不足。虽然前后段落差明显，但观感其实还行，茉莉的设定挺与时俱进，美术和影像也是高水准，整体与[水形物语]处于同一水准。
劇情很一般，Bradley Cooper蠻有魅力的，兩位女主跟之前的角色太相似了，Cate Blanchett還是演大魔王，Rooney Mara還是演小白兔，沒有什麼驚喜突出之處。。。
天道好轮回.. P.S：魔兔几乎没有对手戏啊...
黑暗，致郁，主角的一切上升，都是用带血的利刃抢夺而来，最终必将走向毁灭。貌似原版更好，有时间看看原版。
这么豪华的阵容，成片就这……不知道陀螺是怎么了，能不能回到你拍《水形物语》时的水准啊！电影前半段铺垫的真是太长了，看了一半我甚至还睡了一觉，好在后半段渐入佳境，观感有了质的提升，结尾很不错！
三星半。是边缘人乡巴佬对美国梦的消解，无处不在的性格侧写和土法精神分析透示着上世纪40年代的美国人困在初始的父权制资本主义里，他们中的多数会用一生去疗伤，投射到电影里就是一个又一个不惜欺骗自己的“可怜人”，所以不光是男主角斯坦用存在主义消解美国梦，一般人也在这样的体系里自欺欺人。技术层面还是抓人的，前一小时的马戏团像是陀螺的个人趣味秀，优秀的美术和摄影创造出一个残酷又美丽的嘉年华。但是也拖慢了电影的节奏，甚至出现了很多无用角色，这也造成了虚假高潮和无用伏笔的问题，不过最后更改了原著结局，让电影“noir性”十足的同时，也告别了过去那种天真到有些不切实际的男女关系，也算没有白翻拍。
值得称道一点的就是光影和凯布的表演……有些故事属于写了开头结尾就已然注定了。库珀之于本片男主约等于大本之于gone girl男主——气质是服帖的演技是没有的
电影在文本改编上基本上延续了47年电影版本，特别是几个主人公的设定跟古尔丁版本一致。可惜两次电影改编都忽略了原著以塔罗牌为章回的意义，电影不约而同的强调了”倒吊人“这张代表“牺牲”的牌。陀螺在结尾的处理基本上还原了格雷沙姆的小说原著，从Geek开始到Geek结束，“恐惧是通往人类本性的钥匙”。
对不起，欧洲人对公平的追求超越了对效率的渴望。也有可能我被美式管理术PUA了。
真是boring的故事boring的人物，就这种俗烂剧本需要请一堆大牌明星？翻拍也不是这么搞得吧
我怎么感觉这要是在中国，这老板真是无敌的好老板，这些员工才全是刁民，呵呵
寻着liedownplease来看的 我真是看不得电影了
斯坦顿是一个穷困潦倒的男人，误打误撞之中来到了流动马戏团，在这里，他凭借着自己的聪明才智为自己某得了一份差事——为塔罗牌占卜师赞娜和她的情人皮特工作。从这两个人身上，斯坦顿学会了如何依靠巧舌如簧和敏锐观察来施展观众们眼中的“魔法”。
陀螺总喜欢拍耸人听闻的故事，而且就怕不够耸动。影片前多半部分带来的不确定感都在Stan身上，之后他的底牌被挖掘尽，故事张力被转交给Lilith。陀螺对暗黑异色的不知魇足就像Stan一样，一定要把故事推向更紧张的高潮，却也让自己无路可走，一个循规蹈矩的结尾甚至有了一丝说教意味，最后的自毁宿命搬到来，只想让人说句俗气。WOT
3.5
有点无聊 说起来我最近才知道Rooney mara和纸牌屋的Kate mara是亲姐妹
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